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More Ayn Rand Bitching

Any philosophy that requires a 2-hour rant by the main character to state the "core" of its position is too weak to stand up to even the most cursory argument.

Ayn Rand = 0
Logic = 2

And we're down to the last 5 hours of 57 hours of this book. Unless we go into extra innings, this chick is hosed.


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Jul. 30th, 2004 12:49 pm (UTC)
Which one are you doing?

I read The Fountainhead when I was younger, and I found the idea of artists being able to say "Fuck you, I'm doing this for me" pretty appealing, but on reflection the rest of it seemed... hollow, and very hateful. I don't like authors who seem to hate most of their main characters.
Jul. 30th, 2004 01:03 pm (UTC)
The thing that I remember about "The Fountainhead" was that the conversations were ridiculous. No statement seemed to logically follow the one that preceeded it. That's not communication, that's two simultaneous monologues.

What I hear is not Ayn Rand hating her characters. I hear her hating herself. Go Google some pictures of her, and then read her books where everyone of moral value is tall and willowy and blonde. I swear, she's writing to avenge herself on some guy that dumped her in college.
Jul. 30th, 2004 12:53 pm (UTC)
Oh, you're reading Atlas Shrugged. I think it's definately not her best work.

I was once a big fan of Ayn Rand, but then I got over that. The idea that everything can be decided based upon some objective moral calculus is rather silly, in my opinion.

Jul. 30th, 2004 01:14 pm (UTC)
Her main premise rests on the supposition that all intelligent people have similar and compatible goals and interests. She thinks that objective facts have only one interpretation, and that all people of intelligence reach the same interpretation. Since this supposition is wrong on its face, the rest of her argument crumbles on top of it.

She also distinguishes between "body" and "mind," and uses these concepts frequently in illustrating her argument. But when she uses the word "mind," her definition slips. Sometimes she refers to reason, sometimes emotion, but these two things are not interchangeable.

She also assumes that everyone of intelligence is supercompetent. This is not the case. Most people are somewhere in the middle of the bell-shaped curve, and most people are very good at some things, but not everything. This is why we have the societies we have, allowing specialization of labor for everyone's benefit.

Ayn Rand was uneducated about the reality of social dynamics.

*And* a bad writer.

Jul. 31st, 2004 12:05 pm (UTC)
You must be listening to Atlas Shrugged. I got to the rant and skipped about 50+ pages of text because I was falling asleep. Second and last time I read Rand and I haven't been sorry. I admire you for listening to it, though.
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